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«Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator!» messages have started to pop up, with some extremely accurate advice about not running Vortex as administrator.
Unfortunately, it’s not being run as administrator.
The message appears only once, if you continue it won’t show up again.
The screenshot you’ve shown doesn’t actually prove Vortex isn’t run as admin, it just shows that the exe isn’t set up to enforce it.
If you’re actually running Vortex as a regular user account and get this message your system may have seriously broken security settings.
What Windows version is this? Windows 10?
7 x64. Hasn’t been set up as admin, I’m not running as admin account, and neither the exe nor shortcut push for it which is why I brought up the issue. You’re right about it only being once, though.
Did you maybe disable UAC? That would also cause this. And since you can read that UAC is evil and useless all over the internet (repeated by people without any clue), this wouldn’t be too surprising.
Actually I don’t think disabling UAC would cause this.
What vortex does (in the background) is call
«fsutil dirty query c:» (or whatever the letter of your system drive is) and then see if it returns «access denied» (these command line tools don’t use UAC, they simply fail if the user doesn’t have the necessary permissions).
It is my understanding that no windows version should allow you to run that command without admin rights.
I’ve noticed that Vortex can’t launch external applications if they are set to run as Administrator. F4SE Loader being the best example, on my PC if it’s not set to run as administrator, when you try to launch it, it just opens the default Fallout 4 Launcher. Unless Vortex is set to also run as administrator trying to launch F4SE from the dashboard just does nothing, no messages, no popups, Vortex just sits there silently and doesn’t even tell you why it can’t launch the program.
Actually I don’t think disabling UAC would cause this.
What vortex does (in the background) is call
«fsutil dirty query c:» (or whatever the letter of your system drive is) and then see if it returns «access denied» (these command line tools don’t use UAC, they simply fail if the user doesn’t have the necessary permissions).
It is my understanding that no windows version should allow you to run that command without admin rights.
If you disable UAC, an admin account basically becomes a permanent admin account, i.e. every single process is running with full admin rights.
I haven’t actually tried it, but I’d assume that fsutil would work right away when UAC is disabled. Did you try that implicitly?
Ohhh, yeah, you’re right I guess.
Well tbh, if you run with an administrative account and disabled UAC then the warning is entirely appropriate so I don’t see why we should disable it in that case.
Hate to display my ignorance all over the internet, but here goes. I have never paid attention to Admin rights before since (it seems) I only have ONE user, and that is «Administrator». I do not «log on» to my computer, it just boots straight to Windows. When I try to Switch User, it just lists ONE user: the Administrator.
I’m more than a little concerned by the suggestion (I’m inferring) that somehow ALWAYS being Administrator, always running programs AS Administrator (since, again, that’s the only user set up) is somehow putting my system at risk. I’ve not had any issues YET (knock on wood) with malicious programs, etc but I might’ve been lucky all along.
being Administrator? I’ve seen the «Run as Administrator» option when right clicking a file, it’s just never been an issue since (once more for those in back) I already AM logged on as Administrator and hence (I believe) everything I run, runs as Administrator.
Getting a new Windows 10-enabled PC in a week or so (this one is still Windows 7), and I’d like to get that one set up properly. Thanks!
EDIT: Created a new, standard user account but (of course) all my personalized stuff is gone; fine for my new PC to start out that way next week (now that I know I
want to be logged in as Administrator all the time) but I reeeeeally do not want to go to the hassle of setting everything up for this new Standard user account. So I guess I’m wondering if Vortex CAN be installed as Administrator so I can play around and learn it on this older rig, or if it’ll just be a waste of time to try.
It’s good that you ask this question, it is actually a bit confusing. When you set up a windows system like normal the first user you create is an administrator account.
But that doesn’t mean that everything that account does is done «as administrator». Like just because a cop has a badge and uniform doesn’t mean he can’t do anything as a civilian anymore.
Normally your account, even the «administrator» account is limited, for example it can’t create files in c:\program files and thereby can’t install applications just like that. When you try to do that an (uac) dialog shows up asking you to confirm that this application (the installer) is allowed to make changes to your system.
This is an important security feature. Many people think that this is to protect you from yourself by making you confirm changes but that’s not the point, it’s about protecting you from malicious software.
If you run an administrator account and disable uac you actually run everything as admin and yes, then you are really in danger because then every software you start also has unrestricted access to your system all the time. If anything you use is malicious that software is able to do anything on your system, including spreading itself everywhere, like disabling your virus scanner or adding exceptions so the malware doesn’t get detected any more, installing a keylogger that then starts when your system starts and sends everything you type including passwords and credit cards to criminals, installing a botnet client that then uses your system to criminally harm others and, depending on the laws in your country, that may make you a co-perpetrator due to your negligence.
But also just bugged software may then accidentally delete/overwrite files that the software isn’t supposed to be able to access or open doors for other malicious software. For example a bugged web browser may allow malicious websites to harm your system. And Vortex is a webbrowser (chrome) in the backend which is practically always a few months outdated.
With UAC at the very least you get a dialog «application x is trying to make changes to your system» and when you don’t know why it would do that you can refuse. Without it you would never know something is going on.
Yes, it does make things more inconvenient, not just for you. My life would be so much easier if I just told people «run vortex as admin» because everyone in this community would apparently do it and it would immediately «fix» 2/3 of all bug reports I get and make a lot of code unnecessary. But it would weaken the security of your PC and I don’t like compromises in that regard.
Again, just because you’re the only user on your PC and even if you’re just using it to play games, you can still get into actual real-world trouble from malware.
administrator rights
I get this when I try to install Vortex
«Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator! «
I have no problems with any other programs on my pc
any advice or tips on how to fix this oh I am on win10
I get this from install file the exe not from a shortcut
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Right click on the Vortex shortcut, pick PROPERTIES———->COMPATIBILITY————->Uncheck «Run this program as an administrator»
Thanks for the reply!
Yes, I think so. I searched on-line to learn about how to turn off UAC (and noted why it’s a bad idea) so I checked a couple things on my PC Win 7 Home box anyway. The Control Panel’s User Account Control Settings is already set to «Never Notify» and in the registry,
the EnableLUA setting is already set to «0», which I think means it’s turned off. Maybe the solution is going back to using the Nexus Mod Manager.
thats certainly an option. the best option would be to enable UAC and not run everything as admin, but it’s your system and you can do what you want.
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The solution is turn UAC back ON, so that your system isn’t wide open to malware getting installed without notifying you.
But, it sounds like you want to do everything the hard way, so, go for it.
We can only give advice for people who will actually follow it, it sounds like you just want to ignore that advice and do things your own way, so have at it.
Wow. Anyway I came here for advice since I know nothing about this stuff. I misunderstood the comment above asking about UAC being disabled. I don’t know why or when that disabling happened on this PC and so I thought, okay, maybe that’s what it needed to be. Totally missed it. Plus I didn’t make the connection about UAC and things getting run as an administrator. I’m sorry if my misinterpretation and ignorance seemed like arrogance. Not what I was going for at all.
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Wow. Anyway I came here for advice since I know nothing about this stuff. I misunderstood the comment above asking about UAC being disabled. I don’t know why or when that disabling happened on this PC and so I thought, okay, maybe that’s what it needed to be. Totally missed it. Plus I didn’t make the connection about UAC and things getting run as an administrator. I’m sorry if my misinterpretation and ignorance seemed like arrogance. Not what I was going for at all.
OK, no problem, in the mean time, have you turned UAC back on?
I know I’m responding to a dated thread but still wanted to comment due to some very bad advice above.
I get this when I try to install Vortex
«Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator! «
Where are the games you’re trying to mod installed? And where are you trying to set up your downloads and staging folders (check the Vortex settings).
Because this is my theory: you’re using the C drive, and thus also try to mod games which are located in c:\program files (or the (x86) variant of course) and that can cause problems because Windows considers the C drive a system drive, thus it protects everything from interference.
Just try this example yourself if you want proof:
That’s because the program files folder is restricted on C, even if you run Windows as an admin. As a result programs which try to ‘do’ something here are often automatically elevated to admin privileges. And that’s just the thing which Vortex doesn’t want to cope with (and rightfully so!).
If this somewhat describes your situation then the solution is quite easy (sort off): you will need to give yourself access permissions within those game folders. Run «whoami» from that same commandline program to see your username and remember it.
Then use your file explorer to go to the program folder (on C) which you want to mod. Right click and check its properties. You’ll find a tab ‘security’ (or something close enough) in there. Probably the 3rd tab. Click ‘edit’ or ‘change’ and then use the «add» option. Enter your own username in the field below, and once you added that select it and then use the «full access» checkbox to give your account full permission within the games folder.
That should get rid of all the admin problems.
Warning: Don’t try these procedures on drives other than C because one way or the other it could create a (small) security risk. Once again: this is assuming that your games got installed on C.
Vortex not meant to be run in administrator mode.
Hey guys, I am receiving an error message about Vortex meant to run in administrator mode.
I have searched all over for someone who had a solution and could help me fix this but I had no luck. So I am hoping someone could answer me here. Much appreciated. (:
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The error message is clearly saying that Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator. So, please don’t. Seems like your user account has admin rights or you deliberately chose to run Vortex as administrator, which you shouldn’t.
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The error message is clearly saying that Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator. So, please don’t. Seems like your user account has admin rights or you deliberately chose to run Vortex as administrator, which you shouldn’t.
The error message is clearly saying that Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator. So, please don’t. Seems like your user account has admin rights or you deliberately chose to run Vortex as administrator, which you shouldn’t.
@PaladinHoss: Security concerns are exactly why we’re doing this. NMM is usually run _with_ elevated privileges which would allow it (either due to bugs or malware run in its context, which could also include things like fomod installers) to damage your system. Vortex runs with your regular user account and I can guarantee you: everything works or can be made to work very easily _unless_ you make changes to security settings that you don’t fully understand.
E.g. on a default windows install you absolutely would be able to make changes to files in Documents and Downloads with UAC enabled. These folders are _intended_ to be used by a regular user.
The dialog is only there as a friendly warning you that you may be misusing Vortex, it’s not an error message telling you about anything actually being broken.
Another thing I feel I need to clarify: The first user account you create on your windows (which is usually the only one most people use) is an administrator account but it doesn’t usually run with these permission. Think of a cop who also has a life as a regular citizen and only gets out the gun and uniform when he’s actually policing.
Your account usually runs with safe, restricted permissions for every day use and only if you’re doing something that actually requires administrative power, UAC tells you that and gives you, the user, a chance to verify if you actually wanted to do that.
This isn’t to protect you from yourself, it’s there to ensure that malware doesn’t do dangerous stuff on your system without your knowledge.
«Admin rights»
I don’t understand the question «how to go about installing after receiving this msg».
This topic is about a message users are receiving after they installed Vortex when they try to start it, so I can’t be sure what message you’re referring to.
If however you didn’t receive the UAC dialog and instead on startup get the dialog «Vortex shouldn’t be run as admin» then you have a non-standard windows config where UAC is disabled. How you enable it is a bit system dependent so I don’t want to give a step-by-step guide but you can seach the internet for one of the many «how to disable UAC» guides and do the inverse.
Then, keep note of all websites that had such a guide and make sure you never take PC advise from them.
I’ve downloaded the recommended one step installer. When I open it, I get the standard UAC warning, ‘are you sure you wanna do this?’ sorta thing. When I say run, it begins to install. The install window bar completes, the Vortex logo appears, and then I get the warning above. The error window is entitled ‘Admin Rights Detected’ and the text below says ‘vortex is not meant to be run as administrator, if you’re doing it because you’re having permission issues, please stop, you’re just making it worse,’ etc, etc. I then have the options to quit the install, or ignore the warning. I’m unsure how to proceed, so I hit quit, which cancels the install. So, as someone working with a single account on win7, which is admin by default because it’s the only account, should I hit ‘ignore’ and everything will be fine, or are there additional steps I have to take to make sure that Vortex will run properly?
Did you run the installer as an administrator?
I’m the admin on my system, and the only time I saw that warning is when I purposely tried to run Vortex as an Admin.
Nope. As I stated in my first post, I didn’t right click and say open as admin. I have both simply double clicked to open, as well as right clicked and specifically chosen open rather than open as admin.
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Did you run the installer as an administrator?
I’m the admin on my system, and the only time I saw that warning is when I purposely tried to run Vortex as an Admin.
Nope. As I stated in my first post, I didn’t right click and say open as admin. I have both simply double clicked to open, as well as right clicked and specifically chosen open rather than open as admin.
Wow, I really don’t get that, I’m the admin on my system and I can install stuff for days without the UAC popping up.
Oh, now I know why, I’ve got mine set to OFF
Did you run the installer as an administrator?
I’m the admin on my system, and the only time I saw that warning is when I purposely tried to run Vortex as an Admin.
Nope. As I stated in my first post, I didn’t right click and say open as admin. I have both simply double clicked to open, as well as right clicked and specifically chosen open rather than open as admin.
Wow, I really don’t get that, I’m the admin on my system and I can install stuff for days without the UAC popping up.
Oh, now I know why, I’ve got mine set to OFF
You should look at Tannin’s post. Running on an admin account with the UAC turned off is a really bad idea.
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You should look at Tannin’s post. Running on an admin account with the UAC turned off is a really bad idea.
Yea, didn’t even r3ealize it was off.
No wonder I haven’t been getting annoyed with UAC messages
Have to admit that I’m getting a bit upset that I can’t get any resolution to this issue. The problem isn’t addressed here, or in the FAQ, or anywhere else online that I can find. I want to use Vortex, but it’s been two days now that I’ve been unable to play FO4 because I don’t know if it’s safe to install this thing.
Thank you for replying to my issue and for providing this link, following this guide is the closest ive come to getting anywhere with this issue.
Unfortunately nothing has changed, i still dont have any admin account access. It seems i have encountered another windows paradox where i need admin rights to restore admin rights, lol.
The partial good news is that i have been watching ‘Gophers’ youtube tutorials on how to use vortex and they have been a great help so i can at least still play FO4 confidently using vortex.
(Gophers you tube vortex tutorials.)The other good news is that my son in law (who built my machine) says he may be able to give me admin rights via booting my system from the windows disc and creating a admin account from there. or something like that.
This software should not install or even be downloadable at all without a warning that says
«This software requires a special set of custom settings for windows user. it will not function properly without them not all users will be able to use this setting. Vortex is configured to work with UAC enabled systems only. If you are not one of the select few using UAC. Vortex is not intended to be run as administrator. If that’s what you want you should use some other software. It is neither the intent or design of this software to enable users who have taken the step to lawfully and rightfully disable their UAC.»
Since we are making a religious choice to lynch any users with the right to disable «User Account Control» It really should be made CLEAR to anyone before they download the dixie-cup and take a sip of the poisonous fruit-punch. We don’t want any non-UAC believers getting in the way of our faithful ascension into User-account-controlled heaven.
Im not a good christian UAC sheep. So i guess im forbidden from entering Vortex heaven, or at least scowled at with a visitor pass if i do push past the pearly warning gates.
I find it ironic, that a mod-manager designed to help swiftly and uniformly change and edit features and functionality in games users want to go beyond, discriminates against users who want to go beyond and to change and edit features and functionality in their os.
Vortex devs and enthusiasts should be careful about this polarized decision against UAC disabled choices going forward.
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Im not a good christian UAC sheep. So i guess im forbidden from entering Vortex heaven, or at least scowled at with a visitor pass if i do push past the pearly warning gates.
I find it ironic, that a mod-manager designed to help swiftly and uniformly change and edit features and functionality in games users want to go beyond, discriminates against users who want to go beyond and to change and edit features and functionality in their os.
Vortex devs and enthusiasts should be careful about this polarized decision against UAC disabled choices going forward.
Disabling your UAC is a dumb thing to do.
Interesting comments though, pretty dramatic.
And a 7 month old thread necro to boot.
Now, unless you’re here for some support.
Well i don’t really see any support offered for those with UAC disabled. only reminders that their choice is bad. all the persons who have UAC disabled on this thread are told they shouldn’t be running with UserAccountControl disabled. and that’s the end of it,
-except- for the few whom have attempted to follow that advice, and in the attempt lost their administrator account for doing so, leaving them with an even more pressing problem.
It seems rather similar to converting to Christianity. Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t. Shame on them for ever taking control into their own hands. ～ And wanting to mod.
If the thread is 7 months old, maybe its because less people even care to install and run with a software that only caters to UAC users. ⋆Shrug⋆ Its not the only option out there. Just the only Biased one.
Besides, Zombies have been part of religion since Jesus rose from the dead.
Vortex seems to be broken.
Hi. Vortex keeps giving me this error message when I click to manage Fallout 4 mods.
Every time I click «give permission», this message just immediately reappears.
Please help. Thanks!
Hi. Vortex keeps giving me this error message when I click to manage Fallout 4 mods.
Every time I click «give permission», this message just immediately reappears.
Please help. Thanks!
When you say «just immediately reappears» do you mean it doesn’t show you a UAC dialog? Does it reappear with the same file name or is it simply trying to unlock the next file?
When you say «just immediately reappears» do you mean it doesn’t show you a UAC dialog? Does it reappear with the same file name or is it simply trying to unlock the next file?
I’m sorry for not being clear. It shows a UAC dialogue that asks if I want to allow Vortex to make changes to my PC. I click yes, and the original error message reappears with the same «plugins.txt» file name.
Hi. Vortex keeps giving me this error message when I click to manage Fallout 4 mods.
Every time I click «give permission», this message just immediately reappears.
Please help. Thanks!
Is [this] what you mean? It appears to be writable.
You have to select your user in the upper part of that dialog in your screenshot, so we can see that YOUR account has write access.
Also check on the ‘general’ tab if ‘read only’ is checked there.
I was getting this error a lot last night, I thought it was because I was trying the ‘Move Deployment’ in Vortex to manage mod installs, but then changed back to the Hardlink Deployment method midway through setting up my profile because I was getting fed up with Vortex throwing that window up to Apply/Undo changes to Mods outside of Vortex each time I added a mod, and thought this is what had now broke and was causing that UAC error. Could not work out what was going on as I have full access and control over the Fallout folder and Vortex folders for any and all users on my Gaming PC, I even had Vortex running as Administrator to make sure. Then after several minutes I began to pay attention more to the message and noticed it was the same Mod/File everytime. So I deleted the mod and went back to the page and downloaded it fresh. Installed it and this time no error. Guess the mod got screwed up in the download and deleting it and trying again fixed it. I then attributed this to the issue I’m having where Vortex can’t or messes up downloads if I’m not using my VPN Connection.
So I got this same error with Skyrim saying it needs access to README.txt. And I’m losing my friggin mind. Particularly because when I look in my Skyrim data folder there is NO README.txt. There are some readme files, but each of them has some added text at the end. I literally changed nothing between when I first modded the game and was playing fine yesterday to now so I’m starting to feel like I’m going insane at the moment.
NVM-Solved the problem. I checked the log,as Vortex was telling me to, I realized, and it turned out that one of my mods had gotten messed up somehow, so I just reinstalled it and all’s good now. Boy was I losing my mind here a sec ago though.
so did op solve his problem? im having the same problem and cant fix it at all, even installed completely fresh. For me though, im trying to set the mod staging folder but it keeps telling me to give it permission, which i do, but it popped back up. Its getting on my god damned nerves, i havent been able to fix vortex for months at this point and im fed up with it
Edit: Fixed the problem. If anyone else is having a problem like mine, move the staging folder to documents.
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so did op solve his problem? im having the same problem and cant fix it at all, even installed completely fresh. For me though, im trying to set the mod staging folder but it keeps telling me to give it permission, which i do, but it popped back up. Its getting on my god damned nerves, i havent been able to fix vortex for months at this point and im fed up with it
1. Are you running Vortex as an Admin, or did you ever run it as an admin (besides the initial installation) if so, DON’T
2. If you’ve run it as an Admin, then you’ll probably need to «take ownership of the files and folders that got locked when you ran Vortex as an admin.
3. WHERE are you trying to install the Mod Staging Folder? If you’re trying to install it in C:\Program FIles x86\ don’t, because Windows over-zealously protects that folder.